Do you know what I always thought that. I thought people should live a Christian life because they want to not because they are going to get a prize for it!
Surely if you are only acting in a certain way to get a prize it loses all meaning?
Little Imp
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"Keep your eyes on the prize"
by sabastious in"keep your eyes on the prize".
^ this wt slogan is quite telling don't you think?.
it illustrates what the watchtower's members motivation really is.. -sab.
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Dating a JW for 3 yrs
by justbreathe825 inmy bf and i are thinking on getting married.
i posted a foum early this week on whether or not i should get baptized.
i decided not to.. now even though he says he "doesn't care" he got upset last night when i mentioned the subject and how confused i was.
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Little Imp
Justbreathe, my heart goes out to you, no-one here would want to hurt your bf no matter what, everyone here has had their fair share of hurt and would never dish it out.
We were just here to support you and your anxieties.
Elder Patrol said it all, your bf is a good catch for a witness girl or someone who is seriously going to become one, but perhaps isn't right for you.
I have always had a strong faith and always will. I went along to the meetings regularly before we got married but I did say at the beginning I couldn't promise to become a JW. However, after marrying I seriously wanted to get baptised, that is how strong I felt. However, to be referred to in derogatory terms e.g. "he married a wordly girl, or he married a non-believer" is so not true. It was this kind of talk that put me off.
The next step would have been "she's not out on the Ministry as much as the others" or "she doesn't attend meetings as regularly as she should" I was looking for Christian love not conditional love.
You are only on this site because you care so much for your bf and were looking for a way to make it work. This is positive because your feelings are so strong for him.
Marriage is hard enough at times without your local Elders interfering. For me I couldn't bear to have my loved one referred to as "non-believer" or such like I am sure your bf couldn't bear it either. He would hate to hear you talked about in those terms which is what would happen.
Again, Justbreathe everyone here is kind and wouldn't wish anything bad for your bf or you.
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Dating a JW for 3 yrs
by justbreathe825 inmy bf and i are thinking on getting married.
i posted a foum early this week on whether or not i should get baptized.
i decided not to.. now even though he says he "doesn't care" he got upset last night when i mentioned the subject and how confused i was.
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Little Imp
Green Jade, I think you have been very fortunate indeed, it is not like this for all.
I married a JW and went to the KH, Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday meetings. They are very anti being married to a "non-believer" (as they call non-JW's) and there are plenty of talks on the subject as well as snide remarks. It is not pleasant. Well it wasn't for me as I was expecting to meet people who behaved like Christians. This is without all the other emotional blackmail that is put on you to spend more time in the Ministry, not miss meetings (even when visiting family that you can only visit on a Sunday because of the distance they live from you). You are most definitely looked down on if you don't do FS.
Fortunately, my husband never wanted to be one anyway, we did it for his parents but in the end he couldn't stick it anymore and his parents seem to have lost their marbles so have stopped checking whether we attend or not. (They live miles from us).
I just feel that Justbreathe's situation doesn't look good and probably wouldn't improve, she is a young girl and could probably in time find someone else. Her boyfriend seems so confused wanting to please his parents but not really coming across as wanting to be a JW.
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Why the JW's mental image of Paradise is a pipe dream
by Sour Grapes inyesterday during the witchtower study, every one was.
talking about how wonderful paradise will be with no food.
shortages, perfect weather, no pollution, no disease, and be.
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Little Imp
My MIL has put her life on hold since the sixties believing that Armageddon "is around the corner".
She says she will have a fitted kitchen and a dishwasher in the new world.
She could have had those things now which may have meant she would eat heathy food rather than popping vitamin pills because she cannot prepare food in her awful kitchen that she has.
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"out the mouth of babes " my six year olds opinion of shunning !
by looloo inwalking back from town today we saw two old ladys and i said "good morning" my child said " are those ladys the ones in that religion that come and talk to you about something but i dont know what ?
" i said they were not but she started to ask about grandma again(jw grandma that has not visited for 18 months , her disfellowshipped dads mother .
) it was quite difficult to answer some of her questions and i told her daddy and i dont want to be in the religion because they dont let you see your family who leave the religion (amongst other reasons !
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Little Imp
She has more common sense than all the GB put together!
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"Birthdays rob the glory of God"
by sabastious inhumans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
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Debator
I noticed in at least two of Debator's post that the word "forced" was used.
I didn't grow up as a witness and my experience of attending the KH as an adult is children being "forced" to go out on the Ministry, "forced" to be baptised etc. etc. Jesus wasn't baptised until he was 30. JW children are "forced" to be baptised young.
I also noticed how much more materialistic a lot of JW children are. My two children had very little when they were growing up, we always placed more importance on the family.
Yes, Christmas and birthday we exchanged small gifts. However, these were thoughtful gifts not expensive extravagant stuff that witness children seem to have. We had little money and no way could afford to give gifts all the year round. It was the only time they had anything.
Debator seems to generalise so much about non-witnesses and it just isn't true it is just what she has been taught. They said a lot at the meetings about other religions which just wasn't true, fortunately as I had attended other churches I knew they were lying but unfortnately some people dont have factual knowledge about such things.
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Dating a JW for 3 yrs
by justbreathe825 inmy bf and i are thinking on getting married.
i posted a foum early this week on whether or not i should get baptized.
i decided not to.. now even though he says he "doesn't care" he got upset last night when i mentioned the subject and how confused i was.
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Little Imp
My husband was a JW, his mother didnt want us to get married because I wasn't, though I attended meetings with him for a few months before we got married and for around 6 years after. Initially, I was keen and wanted to get baptised and everything, thank goodness I didn't.
I love my husband dearly but if I had known what I know now I would never have continued the relationship as his mother sent an email just after we first met when she realised he was keen warning him off me. He showed this to me and I wanted to finish it then. He said but it's me your marrying not my mother but I am a soft sensitive soul and wanted to walk away before my feelings became too deep as I believe families are important and didn't want to come between him and his mother. However, he talked me round and we got married 9 months after we met.
I had no problems attending Christian meetings at first as I have always been interested in religion and had attended churches of varying denominations for many years previously of my own choice and they had all been similar so had no reason to suppose that JW meetings would be so different. I even thought that with my support my husband may become an Elder! He laughs at this because he would never have wanted to be one but this is how keen I was. He wouldn't let me get baptised and for that I was grateful.
The congregation always treated both of us like lepers and no way would I contemplate taking children there. We gradually faded and have not now attended meetings for almost two years. However, they hounded us during this time but earlier this year we moved house and told no JWs so for the moment things are OK. We just have to hope that his mother doesn't send the local Elders round which is what she did before to my husband before we met.
My advice, break up while you still can. If you guy really loves you this may bring him to his senses and he will come and find you but I fear that his family may interfere.
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Children of 1975
by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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Little Imp
If the witnesses cared about their people at all as Christians should they would have nipped it in the bud when they were going door to door preaching about 1975. Furthermore, they would have refused to accept the sale proceeds of houses that people sold to preach in the last days.
THEY believed it would happen and did so for ten years. All the evidence is there. I wasn't a witness in 1975 so have researched the subject thorougly believing that people may have read more into it and became over zealous. However, I have to admit that I was wrong they were sorely misled and I am only sorry I didn't believe people when the first told me. However, having done the research myself was probably good.
I applaud Debator for loyalty, this is a quality that I admire in people but cannot understand how he/she can be so misled when the evidence is a plain as the nose on your face.
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Children of 1975
by d inwhat was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
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Little Imp
Debator, if the Org did not promote Armageddon as happening in 1975 why or why did they allow the preaching of it to go on for so long (like 10 years)? As you well know, any behaviour that they disagree with is well and truly nipped in the bud, often by disfellowshipping.
Please answer the questions we are all intrigued.
Also, why would they put in PRINT suggesting that people give up their jobs, homes etc.? As I said earlier and you chose to ignore why would they assume that anyone would have enough funds to live on for more than 35 years? Please answer this as I would love to know the answer. Perhaps the Org is now funding these people and bought them new homes?
Thank you in anticipation of your reply.
LI
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Little Imp
Happy birthday Cantleave jnr. I imagine the day was even more special since it was his first birthday really.
What a wonderful anniversary present to Mr & Mrs Cantleave to celebrate their son's birthday. Hope a great day was had by all.
LI